Locked On SEC Podcast host Chris Gordy gives his observations from SEC Media Days in Tampa, Florida, and previews LSU’s turn at the podium Thursday. We talk LSU baseball stars in the pros, and OutKick writer Dan Zaksheske reveals how he knew ESPN was firing former LSU standout Ryan Clark before he did. And why he was the reason Clark was let go in the middle of a show.
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Back here on Tiger Rag Radio, hour number two of the show. Thanks for listening. If you missed the first hour, don’t worry. You’ll be able to uh catch
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it on YouTube or anywhere you get your podcast. It’ll be uploaded to those two uh venues here about an hour or two
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hours after the show. So, uh and then of course you’ll have the entire week to be able to have a chance to catch up to what we had in the first hour. A lot of
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talk about what Greg Sanki had to say to open up SEC football media days. Raymond Parsh from ESPN Southwest Radio joined
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us as well from Tampa. And our next guest is also in Tampa. It is Chris Gordy, host of the Locked on SEC
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podcast. Chris, thanks a lot for spending some time with us. Of course, Chris also works at Sports Talk 790 in Houston. How you doing, Chris?
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Doing good, guys. Good to know. RP3 opened for me. He’s a good [laughter] opener.
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He is a good opener. We’re not going to ask you to butt. We’re We’re going to ask you to try to, you know, hit it in the gap and try to drive him home after he got on base. So, uh, looking forward
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to this that that would be better than this LSU baseball team. [laughter] There you go. Wow.
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Not Not the team that’s in that great book that [laughter] you read, is it, Chris?
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No. And I’m glad to tell Glenn I finally finished his book. It took me like four summers.
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[laughter]
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A lot of big words in there.
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Yeah, it it helped, I guess, that LSU baseball got eliminated. It allowed you to [laughter] read a little bit more about uh the glory days of LSU baseball.
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But uh Chris, uh what’s uh obviously Greg Seni is the one that made news.
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It’s it’s still what everybody is talking about. Your big takeaways from what he had to say on Monday.
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Yeah, I I think a lot of it is posturing. I mean, I think at the end of the day, they they just want, and Kirby Smart kind of reiterated today, they want rules and they want them enforced.
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I mean, it’s not a crazy it’s [laughter] not a crazy idea. It just seems like there’s been so much anarchy these last few years of college sports cuz, you
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know, that the NCA made rules and then everybody just breaks them or, you know, gets a local judge to overrule or, you know, whatever. And it’s just it’s a
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mess. And so, I think that’s all they’re asking for. I don’t think it’s not a threat. It’s not like the SEC is saying fix this or we’re going to go do our own
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thing. It’s saying you guys won’t do what you’re supposed to do, so what choice are you leaving us? We we want to have rules and rules enforcement. And
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so, yeah, I think it’s just it’s just a sign on the NCA just being a spineless organization and not being retroactive
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or proactive, I should say, in uh you know, the last few years and getting ahead of some of this stuff. And this is where we are right now. But uh yeah, I
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don’t think it’s going to happen. I mean, it it sounds great and all. I mean, I’ve even said if if the SEC were to break off, I I think you could only do it in football only. I think you
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would still have to be a member of the NCA and basketball and baseball, track and field, all that because I just can’t imagine you creating your own championships in those leagues. I mean, what are you not going to go to Omaha?
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You’re not going to be part of the NCA tournament in basketball. It’s just it’s a crazy idea. So, you know, if you went off and branched off and did your own
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thing in football, maybe, you know, there’s a world where the SEC and Big 10 could partner up and separate from the NCA in that in that light. But I think
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every other sport you would have to participate still. And there’s just so many headaches and and red tape you’d have to get through. I think it’s like I said, I think it’s just posturing and
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saying get your stuff together NCA and and you know, kind of pushing Congress and his protect college sports act a little bit too to say let’s get something passed here.
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Yeah. They’re not going to break out in bowling. I don’t think so. But, uh, they don’t have a bowling. [laughter] Um, well, we we’ve covered that business
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end of of uh the SEC media days uh pretty pretty well here so far. What uh getting back to the football field? What
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what teams have you heard from the last couple of days uh that you think uh are impressive or just what’s some other uh
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observations and and what do you what have you heard interesting about Kein from the other coaches?
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Well, I’ll tell you, you know, Kirby Smart today, I mean, Georgia is is Georgia. It’s it’s so crazy, guys. They they spent so many years try trying to
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get to Atlanta and trying to win uh you know, win the SEC championship. Kirby finally broke through and did it a few years back and now he’s won backtoback SEC championships these past two years.
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And yet, like all everybody wants to talk about with George is, man, they lost two years in a row in the playoff.
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It’s like, do we not take a minute and and recognize like they they won the SEC tour championship two years in a row in in years where the SEC has been as
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stacked as it’s ever been in terms of competitive and and it’s like we don’t even give a hat tip to that. But, you know, the the craziest stat to me is
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Kirby is I believe it’s 65 and seven since 2021. I mean, he is he’s incredible. And I think the kind of
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consensus around, you know, the media here at media days is that it’s Georgia and Texas. Those are the two best teams of the conference. I think those will be
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the picks uh when the media votes uh tomorrow on um you know on who they think will win the conference. But um you know Kirby’s as confident as he’s
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ever been. You know their defense took a little bit of step of a step back last year. They still only gave up 17 points a game, but they only had 20 sacks. You go look at Kirby’s teams the years
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prior. It’s like 35 37 40 sacks. I mean they they they are known for wreaking havoc. They did not do that last year.
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And so I know Kirby’s made that a mission to try to get back to doing that and he’s got his quarterback Garner Stockton back who is a very efficient,
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you know, very smart quarterback, takes care of the football, takes a lot of hits. So yeah, Georgia is ready to go.
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And you know, if you’re looking for a team that, you know, might be a little bit of a sleeper just in terms of might sneak up on people. I got to interview Will Stein yesterday from Kentucky and
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that guy is a future rockstar in my opinion. I mean, he’s 36 years old. Uh he’s first time head coach, but man, he
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is he is an offensive guru. He was the OC at Oregon just, you know, just last year. And he’s a Kentucky kid through and through. His family all lives there.
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And he’s happy to be repping the blue the blueg grass state. And with, you know, I think it’s like 40 something, you know, guys they’ve run through the
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portal. Like it’s going to be like I’ve called him the ultimate wild card. Like Kentucky is a team you look at the schedule and you don’t know what you’re going to get from. like that’s a team
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that could uh you know that could really give anybody a game and we had several people say they think they’re going to give Alabama a game in week two in
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Lexington because Alabama’s you know going to be working in a new quarterback. So going to be fascinating to watch Will start in Kentucky.
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Well that leads me to my question that I wanted to ask you Chris which game is a bigger challenge for LSU at Kentucky or at Auburn?
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I think at Auburn because Jordan hair look nothing against Kroger Field. It is tough. Um, you know, I was there a couple years ago when it was the game
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that Oer at Ojeron got fired. Lost there. I mean, I was standing there as everybody in blue and white were singing calling Baton Rouge. They got
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killed that night. [laughter] They sure did.
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It was It was brutal. And that and that was that was the trip that the uh the big money people from LSU made that trip and they got to see that in person. So, uh
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they reacted accordingly. But yeah, to to me at at Auburn, Jordan Hair, I mean, as as up and down as Auburn’s been in recent years, Jordan Hair is is still
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one of the most feared stadiums when when that Eagle is flying around and uh that that crowd gets going. Kudos to their fans, man. I mean, they they
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support their team through thick and thin and they can get loud. And so, yeah, it’s a little bit of a, you know, if you’re LSU, you would have rather
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have gone to Auburn the last couple years as opposed to this year with Alex Gish, who actually knows what he’s doing on offense as opposed to whatever Hugh Fes was putting out there the last two
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years. So, Brian Harson, man. [laughter] Yeah, exactly. But this might be this might be the year year one of goalish.
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Maybe this is the year that that might be a little bit easier going back to Jordan Hair, but always a tough place to play on the road.
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Look, Chris, you you’re locked on the SEC. See what I did there?
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Yeah, that’s pretty good. So, um, what what do you think about all this talk that’s supposedly going around Tampa
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right now that Lane Keven has to win and win big in his first year at LSU? Do you believe that? Do you buy into that?
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I No, I don’t. I mean, I think it’s I think it’s a little silly because because most of the LSU fans I’ve talked to have said, “Look, we I know we spent 40 million on a transfer portal, but
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like, you know, we go nine and three or eight and four, it’s a good foundational year to to get this thing started under Keifin, but everybody gets it. It’s a
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tough schedule. I mean, it’s it’s a brutal schedule. You get road trips to Tennessee, a home game against te Texas in November. Like, it is it is brutal.”
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And Clemson in the opener. So, um, yeah, I I think most levelheaded LSU guys, look, everybody’s everybody’s hoping to go 10 and two or better and make the
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playoff. But, you know, are they going to call for his hit if he goes nine and eight and four? No. I think most people say, “Look, we got it. It was a tough It
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was a tough uh, you know, year one.” And Kein will go back to the portal and make the adjustments he needs to make. But, um, you know, but no, on the outside,
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you’re absolutely right. Everybody’s like, “He better win. You know, he left Old Miss for this.” And it’s like, look, man, he he didn’t leave to go win at LSU
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this year. He left to go win at LSU in the next five years. That’s that’s the whole thing. It’s about establishing a big thing at LSU, recruiting well and building a dynasty at LSU potentially.
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That’s why he left Oxford. Uh if it was just about winning this year, he would have stayed at Old Miss and you know, he would have uh he would have won, you
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know, made the playoff this year. We turned down Champles and Kan Lacy back.
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So um but you’re right. I I was talking to one of the national guys today. I said, man, it is like nationally lane Keith could do nothing right. I mean it
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is when when they go to Oxford week three, guys, the entire nation will be rooting against LSU. If you’re an LSU fan, you just kind of kind of embrace
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that because it everybody is rooting against you.
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And that’s why I’m I fear a little bit at SEC media days on Thursday. We’re not going to learn much about the LSU team because the national guys are going to
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continue to keep asking him, well, about leaving Old Miss. Yeah.
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Yeah. And and that’s what I I’ve been saying, you know, people are saying like, what what are one of the big story lines you want to you want to watch?
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People forget what when Lane got introduced at at LSU. It was a very L pro LSU, you know, press conference room
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for him. It was all local media and I think maybe Ross Dinger and one other national person was there, but it was all local media.
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And then and then every time he met with the media throughout the spring, it was all local media. This the first time since he left Oxford uh or really since
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he left the tarmac with with Marty Smith that he’s going to be asked some tough questions by national media and Old Miss media as well. So, I’m curious to see
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how Lane handles it because there are a lot of angry folks in Oxford that I think are going to be looking for their uh their piece of flesh on Thursday.
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Hey, Chris, two of the uh the biggest games that LSU is going to play this year are in Tiger Stadium. Uh uh not
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counting the Old Miss game, but they involved two Texas teams, Texas A&M and and Texas. And I know you’ve already
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said you think Texas is one of the top two teams in the league this year, but do you give LSU a chance in either of those games?
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Man, we’re gonna gloss over Alabama like like LSU’s just beaten Alabama.
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They have a new quarterback. They have a new quarterback. Come on.
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That is happened though quite a few times since that schedule is announced.
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Alabama’s just another game. No, my al my Alabama friend likes to remind me that uh you know they Alabama win beats
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LSU more in in Baton Rouge than uh than they win just about anywhere else. So uh it’s it’s pretty crazy. But no, I mean
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it’s it’s a tough schedule top to bottom. It just is. I mean you go to a nineame conference slate, it’s it’s tough and and and news flash guys,
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Vanderbilt is no they’re not the doormat anymore. They’re a competitive team. Clark Lee’s got those guys believing.
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Jeff Levy and Mississippi State are supposed to take a step forward in year three. So, um, yeah, I mean, it’s the SEC is tough top to bottom, but you’re
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right. I mean, Texas A&M is going to be tough. Texas is going to be tough. I do think&M takes a little bit of a step back. They lose Colin Klein, their their
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young, bright offensive mind. He goes back to Kansas State. [snorts] They promoted within. Holdman Wiggins is their offensive coordinator. I think it’s a mistake on Mike Elco’s part. It reminds me a little bit of last year.
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South Carolina promoted within and and made Mike Elco their OC. It was a disaster. Uh, you know, Lenor Sers went from, you know, one of the best quarterbacks in the conference to a dud.
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They went four and eight. So, I think, um, this Holman Wiggins experiment.
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Look, there’s a chance Marcel Reed regresses and is not as good this year. And so, um, maybe&M isn’t as tough.
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Look, I know that LSU can’t get beat any worse than they did last year by by&M.
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That’s the game that got Brian Kelly fired. So, Well, that was only the second half. That was only the second half.
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They won the first half, man. [laughter] Come on. Yeah, that’s true. Hey, and Brian Kelly will let you know, too. Uh, they were really good [laughter] in the first half. But I will say, I mean,
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Texas is going to be a problem. I mean, Steve Sarkeesian, they’ve used the words all in so many times this off season. They fired their defensive coordinator.
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They brought in Will Muschamp to create more more havoc and pressure. They they got rid of their entire running back room and brought in, you know, new running backs through the portal. They
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got Cam Coleman, one of the top wide receiver portal guys. And then Arch Manning kid’s pretty good. So, Texas is going to [clears throat] be a problem.
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Well, we appreciate it, Chris. It’s always a pleasure to speak with you.
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Thanks a lot for your time. Enjoy the final two days in Tampa and hopefully we get some u more uh good storylines.
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It’ll be interesting to see what Lane says on Thursday.
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Thanks, guys. And Glenn, you need to write another book. It’ll take me five years to [laughter] read. Thanks, man.
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All right, Chris Gordy, uh host of the Lockdown SEC podcast, also with uh Sports Talk Radio in Houston. That’s
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Back here on Tiger Rag Radio, Jeff Polarmo along with Glenn Gilbo and Todd Horn. For LSU baseball fans, Friday night was a cool night if you um stayed
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up to watch the game. And there’s probably not too many people in Louisiana would normally stay up to watch the A’s take on the Nationals in
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Sacramento, but that’s the situation you had on Friday night with Gage jump starting for the A’s. Tommy White making his major league debut. You had Dylan
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Cruz in right field for the Nationals and Jay Johnson was there. Of course, he is from that part of uh the country. So,
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a chance for him to go back home and then check out three of his former guys.
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And so it was a fun game. It It was interesting. Uh Tommy Tanks got a um a double in his last at bat and a blowout
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loss on Friday. But then last night, in case you didn’t see it, in the game in Arizona, Tommy White had four hits. And
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this is the thing that um just watching him and then just kind of looking at his statistics, he hit 74 home runs in
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college baseball. in minor league baseball. He’s only hit 24 home runs. He has become more of a and I saw a little
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brief interview. I don’t know when it was exactly done. It wasn’t done on Friday. It was I think it seemed like it was an interview done in spring training
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or something just kind of talking about and he talked a lot about being a contact hitter and that’s kind of what
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his game looks like. like he’s not he’s still got that really good bat speed, but he seems more of a guy that would
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rather hit closer than 300 than hit 30 home runs a season.
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I think it has to do with the fact that he cut his hair. He’s not wearing the pink sleeves and or the uh eye black that’s on his face.
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And he looks like he’s lost about 20 pounds, too.
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Yeah. Uh, I was trying to figure that out because he was 242 as a freshman at North Carolina State, 230 at LSU. At
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least that’s what it said on the LSU website. He’s now listed at 220. So, there you go. 22 lbs. There you go.
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Yeah, I’m a good gauge. [laughter] So, uh, but yeah, it was pretty cool.
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And, uh, of course, Tommy gets an opportunity because their all-star first baseman Nick Curts is out. He’s got a sprained thumb. And then their third
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baseman, he got injured. So Tommy White can play first or third. And so we’ll see. We’ll see how long. He’s playing mostly first though, right?
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Mostly first. Yeah.
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You know, you know what was funny about his call up too is is uh you know, most of the time when you get called up, you go to a much bigger ballpark. But he he
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he got called [laughter] up to to the athletics and they’re playing in a minor league ballpark that he’s already played in.
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14,000 seat Sacramento stadium. Are are they’re supposed to be in Las Vegas next year? No. 28 28.
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So they’re going to play in that park all next year, too. Yeah. It’s crazy.
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Charlie Finley’s rolling over in this grave. [laughter] Yeah.
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And uh Paul Skins has rebounded a little bit. Uh he’s won his last three starts and the Pirates are hot and it’ll be interesting to see what they do at the
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trade deadline if they try to add because they have one of the best offenses in Major League Baseball. And you combine that with their starting
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staff, which is of course led by Skings, they could be it they could be a dangerous team.
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I think they’re about nine games out though. Not in the wild card. Yeah. Right. But they’re right there.
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If they were in the American League West, they’d be [laughter] in first place.
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Wait, what does this mean for your Cubs though?
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What it means is, you know, the Cubs have had a lot of success against Sk.
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Yeah, for some reason. Um, they had beat them earlier this year, in fact. Um, yeah. I don’t know. I don’t know. I I mean, I kind of like the Pirates. I’ve always I’ve always I don’t like the Cardinals.
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I hate the Brewers. But, um, the Pirates, I’m like, h, how can you hate the Brewers, man? Honky Wall bangers, man. I love the Brewers.
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They just They annoy me.
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So, they beat you. Exactly. They’re better. [laughter] They are. I will freely admit it. And it aggravates the living daylights out of me.
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What’s uh what’s Bregman doing for the Cubs? Oh, he is not very wellliked in Chicago.
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Was uh well uh in fact there was a game uh first well first of all he has not been very good.
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Um that’s probably it right there.
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That’s a big part of it. If he was he he’s only got 10 home runs. He’s hitting .240. He’s been basically a singles
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hitter for him. He still plays really good defense. I I’ll give him that. I I think defensively he’s really good. But he had a game in Milwaukee. I want to
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say it was around the 1st of July where he hit a ground ball to short, he didn’t bust it out of the box and then the shorts stop bobbled it and if he was
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running hard down the line, he would have beat the throw. And so, uh, of course, the guy’s making 35 million a year, everybody’s saying that the guy
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making 35 million a year can’t run down the first baseline. Bregman says, “Hey, I’ve had eight soft tissue.” You know how Bregman is, he’s very defensive
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about his game. I’ve had eight soft tissues running on running down first base. There’s times where I where I book it. There are times that I don’t. Yeah,
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if I could go back in time, I probably would have ran fast because I didn’t know he was going to bobble the ball. But the next night, he hits a home run.
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He hits a three-run blast. And as he’s going around the bases, he trips.
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No. At Wrigley Field, he’s doing this thumbs down motion. Oh my god. Oh man.
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N that’s you don’t do that. You don’t do that. No. No. That’s not So, he is he’s not very wellliked in Chicago right now.
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Now, if he hits a three-run homer to beat the Brewers in the playoffs, uh they’ll throw a parade for him, but for right now, it’s it’s not been a very good first year in Chicago for him.
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Speaking of the Brewers, coached by former college coach Pat Murphy, what about the other uh college coach, San Francisco Giants coach, Tony Tony
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Vatillo, is 20 and a half games out of first. Man, you think he’s going to last the year? That’s brutal.
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Or make it the next year, you think? I don’t I don’t know. I could see them maybe pulling the plug. I don’t I don’t There wasn’t much hope for them
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this year though, was there? Going into this to the year.
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He’ll probably get a second year, I would think.
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That’s a tough division, man. Even, you know, even as bad as San Diego’s not having I mean, San Diego’s a good team.
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They got, you know, all stars all over their team. That’s a tough division. And he’s getting chewed up and spit up and
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thrown. It’s It’s been bad. It’s been bad. All right. Uh let’s take a break.
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When we come back, uh, we’ll talk about Ryan Clark’s dismissal from ESPN.
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Now, more Tiger Rag Radio. All right, back here on Tiger Rag Radio.
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Tough day for ESPN as they laid off several of their on air personalities, uh, including former LSU Tiger Ryan
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Clark and a man who was writing about it before Ryan Clark actually received his
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dismissal. And the uh is Danh Zakesy from the from Outkick. Dan Zack Schesy joining us here on Tiger Rag Radio. Dan,
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thanks a lot for joining us. How you doing tonight?
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Uh sure, no problem. I’m doing well, thank you.
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Ah, it’s good to have you on. Uh so this is just a bizarre story in a sense of how it all went down. Uh from Outkick’s perspective, how did they see this?
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because obviously the news has come out that Ryan Clark was actually on the air and then when they went to commercial break they I guess brought him in the
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room and said that’s it. Uh you’re done here and uh that’s a really a tough way to be told that you’re it’s never a good
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thing to be fired. It’s never good news to get but to get it when you’re when you’re an on air personality to actually get it when you’re in the middle of your show.
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Yeah. So, what happened was ESPN had planned to tell Ryan and everyone else who was being laid off uh Tuesday, so
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this morning, that they were being laid off, which is why Ryan was scheduled for his normal appearance on NFL Live on Monday. Um, not knowing anything. Uh, I
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received information on Monday morning that this was coming, that Clark was indeed going to be part of the layoffs.
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Um, so I brought that information to, you know, our editorial team and one of our other reporters, Bobby Burck, said, “Hey, I actually I heard that too from a
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different source.” So I was like, “Okay.” He had a couple sources, I had a couple sources, and we talked it over and we’re like, “All right, well, we feel comfortable. You know, we’ve got
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four sources basically saying Ryan Clark is part of the ESPN layoff.” So, we felt pretty comfortable um to go with the story. Now, as you guys know, standard
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journalism practice is to give the subject of a story, in this case it was ESPN, not Clark, because we didn’t know if Clark knew, uh, a chance to comment.
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That being said, we had our reservations about contacting ESPN because the worry was that if we let them know that we knew, they could possibly try to undermine us.
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Look, we can’t prove necessarily what happened, but we sent an email at 400 p.m. Eastern time saying, “We are going
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to publish in 1 hour at 5:00. We are going to publish this story that says Ryan Clark is being laid off. Would you like to comment?” ESPN initially said,
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“Can you hold the story till 5:45?” Now, I assume they asked for that because they wanted the show to end and then be able to tell Clark after the show. Um,
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we said no because again, we we didn’t feel comfortable waiting. We knew other outlets could possibly have this. We knew ESPN could possibly be communicating to other outlets to make sure they got it first. So, we said no.
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Um, and then ESPN suddenly, like 10 minutes later, was like, “Yeah, actually 5:00’s fine.” And then lo and behold, Andrew Marshand of The Athletic posts a
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story that was two paragraphs long and contained a typo, which made it look like his story was quite rushed to get out there to beat our story, [laughter]
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which again can’t prove it, but the circumstantial evidence seems to point to the fact that ESPN probably alerted Marshian that our story was coming at
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5:00 and if he wanted to get his story up at the same time, that would be ideal.
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Dan, did did just out of curiosity, did you guys in your story, I didn’t see it, did you have uh Cam Newton also in it or was it just about Ryan Clark?
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Uh Bobby reported exclusively this morning uh on the Cam Newton news. We did not alert ESPN that we knew about Cam Newton. [laughter] We didn’t want to have that happen.
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Hey, hey, Dan. This is Glenn. Thanks for joining us, man. Um yeah, that that’s amazing. Were were you and Bobby were
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y’all communicating before you you realized you had this, you know, similar information or did that just kind of happen?
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Yeah, it just kind of happened. Glenn, great to talk to you again. As you know, we have our Outkick editorial meetings uh twice a day. So, at the at the
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afternoon meeting, I brought up that I had had this information and Bobby was like, “Oh, I do too.” Um, and that’s kind of how it came together.
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It’s kind of how it came together. It’s why we do those meetings, right? Um, you know, and at that point realizing that we both had multiple sources, we felt comfortable with it because, you know, when it comes to stuff like this,
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someone losing their job, like that’s something you want to be absolutely sure of. And I honestly would not have done the story if it was just me. I honestly
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had some reservations. But once I heard that Bobby had a couple people, I was like, “Okay, this is we got four sources.” Like, that’s a lot. Like, we’re comfortable down with this. And
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were you guys ever able to get in touch with Ryan or has Ryan spoken to anyone other than his statements on Twitter and so forth?
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No, he we he he doesn’t uh communicate with us. Um he had his statement on social media and then I I did notice
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that the Breakfast Club is circulating a statement from quote sources close to Ryan. That sounds like a text they’re reading from Ryan. But, you know, again,
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my opinion, my opinion, sounds like he’s feeding some information to the media outlets that he wants to feed them to.
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He’s not going to give us a statement because he thinks we’ll twist it or whatever he thinks.
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Well, Outkick was was more fair to him than ESPN was.
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I would say I would agree with that. Um, honestly, I would agree with that, especially in our in our breaking story. And you know
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guys, quite frankly, if ESPN had told us like, “Hey, can you hold your story because we haven’t told Ryan yet and we don’t want this to come out while he’s
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on the air.” I would have said, “Yes, that’s fine.” If they were totally open and honest and PR was transparent with me and said, “This is why we’d like you
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to hold the story, and if you do that, we won’t go tell anyone else and we’ll let you have the story.” I would have said, “That’s fine.” Um, I actually
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didn’t even realize Clark was on the air when I sent the email. like I don’t pay that close attention to ESPN schedule.
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And I also was shocked to find out after the fact that he was on the air and I went back and watched I went back and watched the replay of NFL Live and I did
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notice that he was on the air for about the first 40 minutes give or take because there with the commercial breaks and then in the fourth segment as you guys know all of a sudden a pre-produced
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Leonard Fornette segment plays for like 10 minutes. You’re like oh I bet they threw that in there because they were like what do we do next?
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Wow. some time.
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Well, Dan, what do you make of Now the the reason for this for people that don’t foul sports media? Uh ESPN
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acquired uh the NFL media assets and there’s the reason, one of the reasons why they’ve done this is because they wanted to reduce the duplication.
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Obviously, you got like Tom Pelisero, who was an NFL network insider, was one of the individuals that was let go today, but there’s people outside of the
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football realm that have also been let go. We mentioned Carl Ravage, who LSU baseball fans are very familiar with as someone who’s called College World
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Series games, and he’s done a lot of the SEC basketball games, the Tuesday night games here over the last couple of seasons, and and several other people as
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well. What do you make out of this? Um, a and Pat McAfee has been taking a lot of darts today because people are saying, “Look, they’re firing all these
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people so they can give Pat McAfee this huge contract.” Yeah. I mean, that’s always been they they they everyone does that as soon as
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these layoffs happen. ESPN does layoffs every couple of years. You guys probably realize that by now. I actually will tell you that I was part of an ESPN
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layoff back in 2020, November. Um, I used to work for ESPN, worked there for almost 10 years. I was part of a layoff.
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Like they happen every couple years.
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I do believe them in in one aspect. Like it does make sense to get rid of Tom Pelisero because god forbid someone steps on Adam Shfter’s toes. You know, we can’t have that, right?
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Um, you know, I feel bad for Ravage, who I also worked with and think is great.
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Um, I think that’s tough. You know, Stefania Bell I worked with, thought she was great. I think that the NFL Network, though, was a a very convenient cover to
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get rid of Ryan Clark. And guys, I think this started back when he signed his last deal. If you recall, in 2024, Ryan
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made it very public that their contract negotiations were not going well. He accused ESPN of not valuing him enough,
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of thinking he deserved more money. ESPN does not take kindly to that kind of thing. And in 2024, I think the climate
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was a little bit more contentious where there was some concern about, you know, him bringing possibly race into it if they let him go. So, I think they
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begrudgingly signed him in 2024, but I believe that that was always going to be his last contract, that he was never going to get another contract from ESPN.
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And then, as you guys obviously are well aware, the statements he made around the Kairen Lacy situation when he essentially accused the entire Louisiana
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state police of being racist, then the video comes out. I think that one was a big I think I don’t think enough people are talking about how important that
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misstep was. Um, Ryan’s had to apologize on air like four or five times in the last two years for things that he said.
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So, it it’s it’s easy to say it’s redundancy, but I think Clark’s Clark Clark’s days were numbered pretty much as soon as he signed that last deal.
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Do you believe his career is uh pretty much over now? Uh, what do you mean?
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Well, since he’s made so many missteps and there’s not too many places to land, he still has his podcast and I would imagine he’ll he’ll still very do very well.
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I think that’s the reason I asked what do you mean is do I think he’s going to get another network television job? No, I don’t. I don’t think Ryan Clark is
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going to be added to NBC’s Sunday Night Football coverage or, you know, I mean, there’s a possibility that one of the
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streamers because they’re relatively new might want someone who draws some controversy maybe, but I think he’s going to
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probably focus on his podcast. It does well. They’re out doing live shows and all that. And, you know, Ryan’s made a ton of money. I I mean, no one should
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shed a tear for Ryan Clark. Um, it’s tough to get fired in the middle of a show, but you know, nature of the business. Um, it happened to Jeff earlier.
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There certainly is. [laughter] Yeah, we we’ve announced, Dan, that Ryan Clark is is replacing Jeff here on our show. He’s going to start next week,
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but I I I stayed on the show. I didn’t throw away like Ryan Clark did.
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[laughter]
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Yeah. Well, it’s uh for for those uh How old are you, Dan, if if I mind asking? I am 36 years old.
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36 years old. Okay. So, I’m 50 and a and I’ve been watching the uh the podcast uh that Rich Eisen This is Sports Center
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was fantastic for those that haven’t been able to watch it for for someone like me, a kid of the 90s where Sports Center was at its peak and it’s
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certainly ESPN is not even if even if you didn’t have all the the the politics that seem to be around
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ESPN now, the Sports Center would still never be the same just because we have a phone and we can watch highlights. Back in the day, we had to wait till 10:00
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Sports Center or the 11:00 Sports Center if you wanted to watch the highlights of a certain game. But it’s still for those
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that like myself that grew up on ESPN Sports Center, seeing these kind of events and seeing all these people get
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let go, it’s it’s tough. It’s it’s it’s tough to watch. And and um you’re right, a lot of these people, I don’t know
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where they turn. And I’ve I’ve seen a lot of uh it’s good to see that it looks like you’ve rebounded pretty well in your career, but there’s a lot of people
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when they get let go from ESPN, man, this this shatters them. This this takes a long time for them to re to regroup.
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It can. But honestly, guys, like almost everyone I know that’s been let go from ESPN tells me, and I I’ll say the same
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thing. Didn’t know it at the time. Best day of my life. Yeah.
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Best day of my life. Like people don’t understand like working at ESPN. I one guy said to me one time, it’s better to
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be a former ESPN employee than a current ESPN employee. [laughter] And I didn’t understand what that actually meant.
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Looks good on the resume until now. I It’s Yeah, it’s great.
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Right. I could say I worked at ESPN for 10 years.
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Um it looks good on a resume, but I do not miss working there. I’m glad I don’t. I did want to say you you brought up a memory of mine because I, you know,
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same thing, right? like a little younger than you, but I remember my dad used to make me hold a cardboard box over the bottom of the TV to cover up the bottom
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line cuz he [laughter] didn’t want the red score scheduled before they showed the highlights.
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He wanted to be surprised and actually get to watch the highlights without knowing the score on Sports Center. [laughter] Those were the days, man. That was that
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was awesome. Yeah. Well, hey, I very good stuff, Dan. And thanks for pulling the curtain behind and letting us know about it. A tough day for Ryan Clark,
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but uh maybe he’ll he’ll bounce back uh just like you did and sounds like so many others have. We appreciate your time tonight.
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Should have you should have just put some duct tape over the bottom [laughter] of the TV, Dan. That’s great. Thanks, guys. Have a great night.
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All right, Dan Zakesy from Outkick. Good stuff, man. That’s pretty uh wow. U if you want to see how the sausage is made
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when it comes to a breaking story or a story that you get a scoop on, that that was very interesting. We’ll be back after this here on Tiger Rag Radio.
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Tiger Rag Radio is back on the air.
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All right, back here on Tiger Rag Radio, we got uh well, we went a little long there with Dan. So, we got Lane Keifin speaking on Thursday. Uh what Lane’s been obviously quiet, no social media.
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Do you think it’s going to be is he going to be when he and he’s going to get a lot of tough questions based on
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the past and not so much about this 2026 LSU team I feel like but do you think he’s going to be a a low-key lane keen on Thursday?
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I think he’ll start out low-key and I think he may remain low-key. I think he’s going to hide or cling, not hide behind, but cling to the resources that
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LSU has, the opportunity that LSU has, the great best program that LSU football
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is that he’s been mimicking and talking about. And I think that’s going to be his cover, if you will, uh, for those
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hard questions coming from the national reporters about leaving Miss and from the Miss reporters. And I think he’s gonna talk about the fact that he did
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have a a you know the financial support to bring the roster to to the level that he brought it to and then now it’s a
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matter of putting it together and you can’t expect to do it because of the tough schedule and saying he’s submarining him. [laughter]
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Well, I you know, let’s you know, national there’s a lot of national riders there and there’s a lot of Old Miss riders there, too. But there’s a lot of LSU riders and I guarantee you
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they’re going to get their questions in that are going to be nice and softball, [laughter] okay? Cuz you see it, you see it every time. Not just LSU, the other
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schools, they get they get those questions in there to kind of almost u filibuster. I remember there was a guy that covered Alabama that would do that all the time.
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You mean like so what is Scott Riley going to ask?
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Oh, come on, man. Wow. Well, I remember with Les Miles, he would just he ramble on for 14 minutes when he was at that main podium to I don’t know what did they all 25 minutes for each coach.
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Oh, yeah. And he would just a lot he just ramble for 13 14 minutes. Lane might do that. Well, Brian Kelly did that.
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Yeah. Yeah. You You know what’s going to happen, too? You know, uh Lane has not tweeted since there’ll be a question about that. Well, this is what’s going to happen.
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He’s been he’s been lining up tweets for weeks. Okay. He just hadn’t published him and on the the Monday of the Old
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Miss game before he’s going to start launching them all and Pete Golding’s head’s going to explode.
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All right, let’s take one more break and we’ll be back after this here on Tiger Rag Radio. Now, back to Tiger Rag Radio.
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All right, final segment of the show.
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Haven’t been able to get to this. Uh some future opponents announced for LSU football. First of all, um, two lane,
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LSU playing two-lane in 2030. Glenn, you excited about that? [laughter] Well, I was at some of the greatest LSU
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two-lane games ever. I was at that 1973 game in Twolane Stadium.
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I was 12 when Twolane beat LSU 14 to nothing. And then the year before, uh, LSU barely beat Twolane 9 to3 in
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two-lane Stadium with Bert Jones in that game. Um, but you know that that rivalry had its day. I mean, there were
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some great games, late 70s, early 80s on both sides. The the 1982 game that LSU
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lost after getting the Orange Bowl bid, that was a classic game that that uh Twolane won, but uh you know, they they uh they haven’t played since 2009.
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Uh I I always thought it was cool for LSU to play a regular season game in New Orleans every now and then. I think they had like a three in one deal going, you
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know, uh considering some of the teams they play, it it would I think it would be smart to play two lane every now and then. So this is good.
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I I think the bigger news actually is that they canled the Arizona State and it seems like they kind of replaced
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two lane with Arizona State one of those years. So, does that mean they’re not going to play a power another school from a power four conference that year?
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Do they think that rule is going to go away? Do they also feel that the season could potentially start a week earlier
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by scheduling Northwestern State and ulm on what would be right now week zero?
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I think that’s a safe bet that they think it’s going to the schedule’s going to be moved up totally. Yes.
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Okay. So there could be the two lane game is scheduled August 31st. There could be actually a game on August 24th as weird as that sounds.
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Yeah. Yeah. In Tiger Stadium. [laughter] That better be a night game like like a night game like at 10:00.
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I don’t know, man. I don’t know. It’s uh it’s crazy. Uh but I’m kind of gl you know to it’s great to see Tain um be as
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competitive as they are. Hey two lane, man. You talk about a program that knew how to work the portal. The portal made them a program,
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dude. By 2030, LSU is going to be in the SEC NFL and there’s not any will be with the Cowboys. [laughter]
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I think there’s a better chance that will happen than the breakaway happens by 2030.
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Case explain to us how the World Cup
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[laughter]
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How does Argentina have a How does How does the World Cup operate?
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Extra time. [laughter] I forgot case was extra time. What does that have to do with that?
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How do they How do they just end the game? It’s arbitrary. What the hell’s going on?
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Oh, you’re saying like the extra the minutes at the end, the injury time and Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don’t get it either.
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I think it’s whatever the team they want to win takes the lead. They say it’s And that’s the [laughter] problem.
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That’s That’s what That’s what everyone’s Who’s more Who do you trust more, FIFA or the NCAA?
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You want to You want to talk about an organization that won’t enforce any rules? [laughter] Ask Francis Balagan about that one.
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Sorry. [gasps] So, uh, what did you think of the World Cup, Case?
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I thought it was a fantastic filler between the end of LSU baseball and SEC media days. That’s all I ever wanted it to be, and it filled that role perfect.
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. See, the expectations were met there for Case. I hate SEC media days.
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There’s only two more days left, and Thursday hopefully will be somewhat interesting with uh, Lane Kein. So, all right guys, we got to get out of here.
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Good show. Uh, it was fun. Uh, Raymond Pars joined us and, uh, along al along with Chris Gordy from SEC football media days. Also, good stuff there from the
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outcakes, Dan Zachesky. Uh, so that does it for another show. For the latest in Tiger Rag or for LSU News, check out tiger.com. If you missed any of the
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that’s been listening here to Tiger Ragg Radio. Have a good night everyone.
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