GUILBEAU: SEC Behind the Scenes
Miles on verge of Saban-like Draft numbers
By GLENN GUILBEAU
Tiger Rag Featured Columnist
Perhaps no college football coach in history has produced the number of first round and other early round selections in the NFL Draft over such a short period of time as former LSU and present Alabama coach Nick Saban.
But LSU coach Les Miles will begin to forge a significant dent in the Saban swath in this week’s NFL Draft and in the 2013 draft.
Former Saban players have been spread around the first round and second rounds since 2004 like so many shards of crystal from the Crimson Tide’s smashed former national championship football trophy.
In 2004, Saban’s 2001 LSU signees Michael Clayton, Devery Henderson and Marquise Hill went in the first 63 picks with Clayton, a wide receiver, going in the first round at No. 15 and Henderson, another receiver, and Hill, a defensive end who passed away in a drowning accident in 2007, getting selected in the second. In 2005, defensive end Marcus Spears went in the first round, followed by cornerback Corey Webster in the second. In 2006, tailback Joseph Addai went in the late first round with offensive tackle Andrew Whitworth getting picked in the second.
The draft of 2007 was the greatest in LSU history as far as high picks. A school-record four went in the first round - quarterback JaMarcus Russell as the first pick, free safety LaRon Landry as the sixth selection and receivers Dwayne Bowe and Craig Davis as the 23rd and 30th picks, respectively.
Defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey played only his true freshman season for Saban, but Saban and his staff still recruited and signed him and started him on his way. He went in the first round as the fifth pick in 2008. Defensive end Tyson Jackson, who never played on the field for Saban but was signed by him in 2004 and red-shirted, went in the first round in 2009 as the No. 3 pick. Not all have panned out, but that is not a college coach’s job. And not all should have been picked as high as they were, which is not a college coach’s decision.
But that is quite a worksheet - 13 first or second round picks in six drafts with nine in the first round. Since bringing his penchant for No. 1 recruiting classes from LSU to Alabama in 2007, Saban has produced another six first rounders - including another quartet in the 2011 draft - and two in the second round.
So through just eight signing days at LSU and Alabama - 2000, ‘01, ‘02, ‘03 and ‘04 at LSU and 2007, ‘08 and ‘09 at Alabama - Saban has produced 15 first round picks and six second round selections. (Saban signees at Alabama in 2010, ‘11 and ‘12 are not yet eligible for drafts.) And there is more where that came from. Saban is expected to produce a personal record five first round picks on Thursday. The five Tide players projected for the first round are tailback Trent Richardson, strong safety Mark Barron, outside linebacker Courtney Upshaw, cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick and inside linebacker Dont’a Hightower.
Probably no college football coach alive can match these numbers in such a short span, but Miles is on his way. Miles, who enters his eighth season at LSU this fall, did not produce a first round pick that he recruited and signed until cornerback Patrick Peterson was the fifth pick last season. But they are coming fast.
Three of Miles’ signees - all juniors - are expected to go in the first round Thursday - cornerback Morris Claiborne in the first five picks, defensive tackle Michael Brockers in the middle of the lot and wide receiver Rueben Randle toward the end of the opening round. And that’s only the beginning.
In the 2013 NFL Draft, expert Mike Detillier expects as many as six LSU players - all juniors - to go in the first round - defensive end Sam Montgomery, offensive tackle Chris Faulk, defensive end Barkevious Mingo, free safety Eric Reid, cornerback Tyrann Mathieu and defensive tackle Bennie Logan. That would break Saban’s record of five, if that is how many Alabama players go Thursday. It would give Miles nine first rounders in two drafts, which would match Saban if he has five on Thursday.
And then there is unusually tall cornerback Tharold Simon at 6-foot-3. He could be a second round pick out of LSU in 2013 as a junior if not higher. Offensive tackle Alex Hurst, who will be a senior for the Tigers in 2012, could make the second round as well.
The LSU-Alabama pipeline continues to flow. As Saban and Miles get into their 60s, the number of players they put in the NFL from their split doubleheader in 2010-11 may be more than their respective ages.
Keep the programs from those two games if you still have them. By the time the players on both rosters all cycle out, there may be 70 of them in the NFL.
And perhaps it would make sense for the NFL to start holding its drafts not in New York City but somewhere between Baton Rouge and Tuscaloosa. Perhaps Hattiesburg or Meridian?
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Glenn Guilbeau covers LSU athletics for the Gannett News Service. Read him at www.LSUbeat.com. Reach him at gguilbeau@gannett.com.




I think that the LSU/Alabama fans just might be taking this thing too far. I live in Georgia and because of my LSU cap the Wal-Mart cashier refuse to bag my groceries. Telling me that she noes not like Bama or LSU people. If one of us win it all again I might be run over.
Informative article Glenn. But I think Miles should get more credit for the players who were signed under Satan but earned their stripes…and their big paydays…playing for Miles. For example: Satan barely used J. Russell; but he became a star in Miles’ offense. It looks like Miles was the only one that could get through to that knucklehead. And Dorsey: he was from Ascension Parish and would have signed at LSU if Bozo the clown (a/k/a Curley Hallman) had been coach. Miles and his staffed coached him up to being the superstar he was his senior year.
I thought I was the only one who could not get the spelling of Little Nicky’s name right. Anyway, if you look at the one who picked the players and the one that developed the players, it is plain to see that Satan did only the picking. Only the players he coached at Alabama can go to his credit. The LSU coaching staff is the best in the country, especially on defense and special teams. Alabama is the only other team that can match it. But it is safe to say that if you get picked by either and get developed by either, you are probably an exceptional player by the time the NFL looks at them in their Junior or Senior year. As an LSU Alumni and a big supporter of the SEC, I can say that I am glad Alabama and LSU are in the SEC. If one team does not win it, the other will. The only time I hate to see Alabama win is when they play LSU. Thankfully, the Tigers have been the better of the 2 in the last 6 meetings.
And if a frog had wings he wouldn’t bump his ass when he jumped. Saban has produced 19 first round draft picks. Keyword PICK. He picked them. The terminology is there for a reason. Talent goes a long ways. A lot of what LSU does on the field is the same as any smash mouth program. Those players are/were play makers. But when the rubber meets the road, it is Saban with 3 BCS Titles. Miles got the 2007 Title fresh off “Little Nicky’s” exit. Now you are getting the true Les Miles from Oklahoma State. The Les Miles that everyone but LSU fans hate. Alabama has 45 Overall First Round Draft Picks. LSU has 32. Of those 32, 8 of those were Saban products. Miles produced Patrick Peterson, Michael Brockers, and Morris Claiborne. I love you coonasses. Just like Auburn fans. 14>3 all day long. Hell, 9>3 all day long. 46-25-5. Just keep that in mind. Tons of other stats I could bring up. But it does not matter, you guys cannot even understand that Saban came in and revived your dead program. Put credit where it’s due. That’s what college football is all about. It is a game. But there are facts to go along with this stuff.
Alabama (Saban) vs LSU (Miles) Recruiting
2008 – Alabama # 1, LSU # 11
2009 – Alabama # 1, LSU # 2
2010 – Alabama # 5, LSU # 6
2011 – Alabama # 1, LSU # 6
2012 – Alabama # 1, LSU # 18
To you saban lovers you never heard of big Nick until he got LSU he wasn’t winning big a Michigan state they were just a middle of the pack football team in the big 10 people should realize LSU did just as much are more for him as he did for Lsu